Dynasty Trade Reviews and Player Value Discussion | 2026 Dynasty Fantasy Football

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Hello and welcome back to Lab 52
at Dynasty Football podcast.

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I'm one of your hosts at Techmo
Weave, joined by my Co host

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Weapon X.
And as always, this is not

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Dynasty advice.
This is Dynasty insight.

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This week we're going to be
covering trades.

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Trades in the offseason
probably, at least in my

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opinion, one of the my favorite
parts of being in a dynasty

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league.
And when a league has active

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trading, it can make it a lot of
fun.

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And when it doesn't kind of has
the same effect, it makes it

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feel sort of stale.
How do you how do you feel about

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leagues where the the trading is
active versus the trading is

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really kind of kind of dormant?
Oh yeah, I think what your your

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sediment on that.
I think everyone feels the same

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way.
Anyone who takes dynasty

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football seriously enjoys the
hobby very much.

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A league that has active
trading, trade discussions,

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trade offers being set in your
way, that's always going to make

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it more, more enjoyable, more
fun, just more engagement,

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league engagement.
So important with dynasty, it's

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a year round, year round deal.
So if you're only engaged in a

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couple months throughout the
year, it, it just feels more

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like a redraft league.
Yeah, these trades matter.

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They have impacts long term,
short term.

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And that's why it's fun when you
get you get into leagues that

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are really engaged with trades
and, and discussions and you

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know, that's what it's all
about.

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You know, that's one of the most
fun parts of dynasty fantasy

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football is the trading, and
looking forward to hearing some

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trades here.
Absolutely.

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But before we get to that, I
heard Lab 52 took a a massive

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evolution this week in terms of
technology.

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We we took a step forward into
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Tell tell our audience more
about the massive step this this

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show took.
Yeah, I mean, I, I don't know,

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massive might not be the, the
correct word for it, but now

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it's exciting.
We, we got our own website,

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itslab52dynastyfootball.com.
We we started up.

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It's very early on.
So, you know, there's, there's a

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lot that's still going to be
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But right now if you go on the
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posted, You'll see a spot there
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There's a couple spots on the
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out a quick little form there,
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all on the show, you know,
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us.
And in the coming weeks, we'll

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be posting our positional
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We'll be getting those on the
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throughout the year so we can
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And we're going to do redraft as
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So we'll have those rankings
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But yeah, it's exciting.
It's, it's always a good thing

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to have a place for listeners to
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engage with us.
And again, we're, we're so

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thankful for anyone who does
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And, and it to me, it's, it's
the feedback that we've gotten

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from, from people that listen to
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positive feedback.
It just gives me so much

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confidence in that what we're
doing is, is good, but also

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it's, it's never enough.
You got to continue to focus.

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And it just gives me motivation
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provide even more, more valuable
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It's motivation to get better
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And you just to me, it's
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And so this website is a is a
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excited about it.
And yeah, that's going to be a

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good spot for you to reach out
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Yeah, We'll be more than happy
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I was disappointed that it
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with a lot of backslashes and
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there.
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legit website.
So once again, that what was

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that?
Again, That was Lab 52 dynasty

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football.
Yep, Live 52

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dynastyfootball.com, that's the
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And yeah, like I said, we're
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updating.
It's very, very early on the

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process, but as the, you know,
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closer to NFL season, there'll
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But yeah, it's exciting and
we're we're thrilled to have it.

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It's wonderful.
I'll I'll plan to update my my

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rankings every hour of the day.
Yeah, I, I don't know, I, I

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don't imagine you doing that.
But if you did, I, I, I think

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you're going to have a hard time
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hour because as far as I know, I
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the background updating every
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I know I'm not going to be doing
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Fantasy moves really fast.
I I want to be on on top of the,

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the rankings.
You know, I just moved Greg

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Dulcis of my rankings, You know,
he Yeah, but we'll, we'll get to

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him later.
We'll get to him later today.

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The topic is trades and you and
I were talking briefly before

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the show.
We've covered trades.

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It's an important part.
It's an essential part, at least

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in our opinion, In my belief, if
you want to make your team

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better, it it's not just going
to happen organically because

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you're this, you know, you know,
savant GM that every player you

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draft and then you have the, the
superstar team.

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It's just not how it works.
Things happen, injuries happen,

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retirements happen, players
underperform, they overperform.

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You will have depth at a
position and a weakness at

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another and you got to fix that.
Otherwise, your team just kind

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of sits there and it rots and
you end up in the middle of the

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pack and as they say, that's the
worst place to be.

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I figured it would be it would
be good at least throw out some

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things that we've talked about
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We may not spend a lot of time
on them.

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We we've talked about trade
calculators and I, I've always

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said I'm, I'm a supporter of a
trade calculator, but you can't

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live and die by the trade
calculators because they can be

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manipulated just like AI can be
manipulated to agree with

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whatever you want it to agree
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AI can lead you down a bad path
or if you use a trade calculator

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in the wrong way, but certain
sites, I, I think they can

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provide some useful baseline
information.

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And here's one that I have and
then I'll, I'd like to hear your

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thought on trade calculators and
how you use them and if there's

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any specific ones you're using
now, I think this is a nice

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value for people to know.
Granted, it's just one website.

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Keep trade cut KTC.
If you're playing dynasty, you

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probably know it it based.
If we're looking at the 27

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class, which those those pics
they're they're hyped by a lot

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of people.
Question is, well, what is a 27

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first worth?
And according to keep trade cut,

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which is a you know, it's a user
generated crowdsourcing website.

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So it's taking the opinions of
the community.

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A mid 27 first is worth the 2026
one O 3.

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That's that's kind of
interesting.

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So that's maybe worth like what
you know who who's going one O 3

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in the in the rookie draft this
year, maybe Fernando Mendoza,

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maybe Jadarian Price, maybe if
you're lucky, Carnell Tate,

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someone in that range and a late
27 first, if that's what you

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predicted to be is going for the
one O 5 and kind of coming back

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to the I I skipped a piece here.
The the 27 midfirst is also

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worth an early fourth round
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That's interesting.
The four O2 or the four O 3 in

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the late is worth a late 5th.
So ultimately, if you were to

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predict your future first,
somewhere in between a mid to

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late 1st of next year, somewhere
between an early 4th and a late

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5th in a startup value and A and
a fairly early rookie pick.

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I think that's, that's
interesting when it comes to

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trading because it at least
gives you a, a conceptualization

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of what that pick is worth.
But yeah, what what are some of

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your thoughts about trade
calculators?

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How do you use them?
Or do you say I don't care what

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the calculator says, what I
think is how it's going to be?

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Yeah, I, I think for me, a trade
calculator is a nice, it's a

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nice guy that that's kind of how
I use it as a guide to kind of

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see where you're at, where
you're at with your offer, if

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it's close, if it's, if it's in
the, in the vicinity.

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You know, I, I kind of like just
using it as a guide to get me to

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where I need to get to in a
trade.

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Because again, everyone use
different, different trade

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calculators.
Everyone has evaluations of

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their players differently.
Now they don't agree with trade

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calculators or, or they have a
trade calculator they use and

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the one you're using is way off.
It's not even close to what what

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they're using.
So for me, I use it as a guide

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to try to get close to where I
believe the, the trade partner

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may be, may be looking at.
And the one I like, the one I've

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been using recently is the flock
fantasy calculator.

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I it's a really clean tool.
I really like it because you can

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link your leagues to it.
So any kind of trade you're

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thinking of doing in your
league, you can plug it in right

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there and it's going to
customize it to all your league

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settings, all the rosters that
are in your league.

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They're they're right there.
It shows you the team name and

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everything.
And I'm sure there's other

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calculators that do the same
thing, but I like that feature

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that's also very customizable.
You can, you can completely

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customize all the settings for a
different league, or you could

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just do a custom league and try
to see, help someone else out,

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you know, and if they're looking
at an offer and just kind of

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plug that in for them and see
and see what it's looking at.

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But for me, the main thing is
you still have to really know

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your league.
You got to know your league

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settings, of course, and you
just got to know the tendencies

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that your league mates have in
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That's most important because a
trade calculator isn't going to

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be the same for everyone.
But for, yeah, for me, it's a

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guide.
Very.

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It's a useful guide, but it for
me it's not going to be the only

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thing I use when I'm trying to
do a trade.

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I think that's that's absolutely
a fairway to look at it is the I

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I guess with the flock
calculator.

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I the one I've used and I tend
to use the desktop sites.

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I I don't like using my phone
for a lot of these things, but

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for keep trade cut fantasy calc,
I use those on my phone all the

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time and I have no problem with
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I've never booted up to the the
Flock site calculator, but I

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have used the desktop and at
least in my opinion it doesn't

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seem to change the values it if
for whatever reason it picks one

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of my leagues.
Is the like the default value

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for everything?
But I believe you're using it as

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an app, is that correct?
I use it on the mobile site and

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I believe even on a desktop, so
you can customize to any

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settings that you want.
It is a custom mode and you're

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able to put, you know, full PPR,
tight end premium or non PPR.

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You could do whatever setting in
that and then it will customize

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those trade offers based on the
settings you choose.

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There's so there's a custom mode
and it is very helpful.

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It is very helpful, but I think
that my favorite feature is is

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just it links right to your
league and and that's that's

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cool to have it.
Yeah, and I, I, I've used it and

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I, I always enjoy looking at
those sites.

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Just gives me another opinion on
my teams and other people's

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teams and values of players.
Another website I really like,

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and I've mentioned this one
before, is Dynasty Daddy that

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you can connect all your leagues
to.

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It doesn't take very long and
it's a nice easy has a nice easy

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interface to flip flop between
dynasty value and redraft value.

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And it will compare the
different values that are

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provided by different sites.
So it's not just their site

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giving you the value.
It's comparing it to draft

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sharks and and one of the, you
know, hundreds of other fantasy

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websites that are out there.
It's interesting to see, OK, if

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if this is a if this is a win,
this is a loss.

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If this is close, you know that
you know, it's once again, it's

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just another opinion to bounce
an idea off of.

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But I I tend to like dynasty
daddy.

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So KTC dynasty daddy fantasy
calc.

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You know, you mentioned the
flock site.

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Those are all very useful.
I do use a fantasy pros as well,

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but that that's more of you got
to you got to get used to some

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of these calculators because
fantasy pros, if you end up

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winning the trade, you know, you
really want it.

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It it to me.
To me it seems like the values

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are quite off, but you know,
it's just one of many tools.

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Yeah, for sure.
And, and, and the main thing is

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when you're, when you're talking
about calculators or, or ranking

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sites and all that, these are
tools at your disposal to use.

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But when it comes down to it,
you always have to know your

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league mates because that's
what's really going to.

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I mean, at the end of the day,
you're sending an offer to

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somebody and that somebody
you're sending it to may have a

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completely different opinion
than any site or calculator you

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look at.
So use them as tools at your

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disposal.
Use them because they, they,

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they're going to be helpful, but
use them as a guide and try to

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get to that talking point with
the league mate.

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And then and, and it's always
funny, people, people send a

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trade or, or they'll send a
screenshot.

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Look at the calculator says
this.

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I mean, in reality, like, you
know, that's not going to be a

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helpful tactic.
Don't send a screenshot of the

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calculator.
You know, use it.

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Try to get to the to a point
where you think the other, the

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other trade partner is going to
be interested.

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But they're tools, they're
helpful.

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But yeah, focus on who you're
trading with and and their

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tendencies.
I'm ashamed to admit it, I've

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done that sometimes.
Oh well.

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I, I, I've done it, I've done
it.

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And I mean, of course you want
to get the deal done if it's, if

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it's something you suggested,
but I typically do not send

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trades that are just
outrageously bad.

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I, I don't intentionally do
that.

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And if I'm running it through a
calculator and the calculator is

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showing a win in some sense, and
if I know my trade partner also

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uses a calculator, feel like I'm
just doing some of the work for

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him, making the decision real
easy.

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But I do agree it has a very low
success rate.

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And the ones are really like,
oh, thanks, tech MO.

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Yeah, you send me that
screenshot.

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That was the deciding factor.
Except no, it, it, it's, it's

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tends not to be overly helpful,
but I, I do it in a sense for

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transparency, you know that I'm
not just making stuff up.

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But yeah, let's cover some real
world trades we've pulled from,

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from our lives, from the lives
of scouring the Internet.

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These are real trades that have
happened.

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And we'll, we'll provide some,
some insight into these dynasty

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trades.
I think I'll start with one and

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I get it.
It's a trade I did.

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So I think hearing your insight
on it, I mean, my feedback on

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it'll be somewhat short because
I did it.

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So I I tend to think it's OK,
but I'd like to hear your take

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on it.
This is for a super flex 12 team

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league tight end, premium and
PPR and you're starting 10.

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This is ultimately A2 part
trade.

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So I'm just going to cut to the
end result of what I gave and

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what I received, and I sent CJ
Stroud, David Montgomery, Tuba

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Hubbard, Jonathan Brooks and the
410 rookie pick for Ormary and

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Hampton.
Yeah, I mean, I think, I think

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that just first glance at this
trade, there's one player in

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this trade that I mean, it's the
guy you want and it's not even

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close.
Omarion Hampton is a top five

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dynasty running back in most
sites.

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Yeah, CJ Stroud and a Superflex
has value, but he he's, you

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know, his arrow is pointing
down.

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It's not pointing up right now.
Omarion Hampton, the NFL draft

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came and went, no real
competition there for him.

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He looked tremendous when he was
out there on the field last

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year.
Yeah, he had a couple injuries,

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but when he's out there he he
looks absolutely amazed.

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And the obviously the ancillary
pieces in this trade, you know,

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the rooks at the 410.
Albert is, is technically, yes,

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he is a starter this year, but
his long term value is very low

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right now.
Yeah, this is for me, this is a

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big, big win on the Hampton
side.

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You're getting by far the best
asset in the deal, by far the

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most valuable asset in dynasty
right now.

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As far as you know, there are
specific values in this trade.

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There is no, I mean, there's no,
it's not close.

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The value of Hampton comparable
to other players in the deal.

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It's it's a pretty, it's a
pretty wide margin.

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So yeah, I would say the Hampton
side 100% of the time you're

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making that deal.
And you know, I'm sure that

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there there may be some people
that listen that are aware of

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the specific trade that I'm I'm
referencing in this specific

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league.
I happen to have the 1/5 and the

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1/6 and I took Lemon and Tyson.
So Tyson ultimately became part

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of this deal, but because what I
gave up for him was already

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included in these, these players
I'm referencing, you know, I'm

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not mentioning him specifically,
but it's like that trade we

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talked about last week when if
you take players at 2 spots

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right next to each other, when
it comes to looking at your

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cumulative result, it doesn't
really matter which one you took

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first.
That's, I guess that's just me

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being being a full, full
transparency about this trade.

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But yeah, I know when I when I
made it, I figured this is kind

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of the concept of it's better to
be out on a player or a year

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early than it is a year late.
And when we look at, you know,

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where it was David Montgomery
going to be in three years,

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where's Chuba Hubbard going to
be in three years?

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And is it likely It's possible
and everybody likes Jonathan

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Brooks.
All the sudden I couldn't

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couldn't give the guy away a
year ago.

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And now, now people are like,
hey, can I give you a late 2nd

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for I'm like, no, no, you're not
going to get him.

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There's a chance he takes over
that backfield.

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Absolutely a good draft capital,
good college production.

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But when you have two, I think
those are two ACL tears in the

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same same knee.
That's, you know, that's hard to

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recover from in a league that
moves quickly.

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So what are the chances that
Jonathan Brooks.

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Takes over that backfield and
and has a meaningful NFL career.

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It's possible, but I'm not sure
it's something I want to bet on.

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So that leaves ultimately the
one piece with value as CJ

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Stroud.
And it is a super flex league.

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But Stroud for Hampton?
No.

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I think most people are going to
take Hampton 10 out of 10 times.

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Yeah, I, I agree.
Yeah, like you said it well, and

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and this, this type of trade,
yeah, you may be getting 2

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started running backs, but
that's more of like a redraft

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mindset.
Say you're getting Chuba Hubbard

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and Monty in the middle of the
season and they're they're

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producing and you're trying to
look for a team who's desperate

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at running back.
He doesn't have much.

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And Hampton is the only guy you
might be able to get that done.

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But in dynasty now in dynasty,
you're going to have to pick the

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values here.
And yeah, like I said, it's the

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value of Hampton comparable to
other players.

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The deal.
It's, it's, it's, it's a pretty,

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pretty wide margin for sure.
All right, Yeah, You hit give.

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Give us one.
Hit me up with one.

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I'll get you one right here.
So this is a 12 team start ten

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1.5 Titan premium pretty
standard here.

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It's PPR and then .5 tight end
on top.

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So it's at 1.5 tight end, but
there's no tight ends here in

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this trade.
So that's not too, too important

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now.
But so it's Ashton Gente, the

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one O 7 A.J.
Brown and you know, we got to

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have Harvey in a trade Harvey
and it is for love the one O 5

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Roma, Dunze and Pacheco.
So, I mean, there's a lot of

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moving pieces to this trade, but
it is an interesting one.

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That it's a lot to consume in
that trade.

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I saw a quick click bait
article.

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It was talking about the ten
worst offseason acquisitions and

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#10 was Isaiah Pacheco on his
one year $1.8 million deal.

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I mean, I don't even, I don't
even care if the guy just plays

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half the season.
I mean, at that price, how can

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you really be down on the deal?
And when you read articles like

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this or snippets, it's almost as
if like, it was just written by

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AI.
The complaint about the deal was

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there are established starters
in the backfield.

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Well, yeah, Jamir Gibbs, but who
else?

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And so I did a did a quick
Lion's depth chart search and

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it's like, no, no, it's a Isaiah
Pacheco is the #2 running back.

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And at least for the last few
years, it's been a a pretty

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lucrative position.
And Gibbs does not stay on the

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field the entire game.
So for less than $2,000,000 for

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a guy that was, you know, close
to 1000 yard back.

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I don't even know if Isaiah
Pachenko had 1000 yard season,

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but it was a good runner just a
couple years ago.

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He's not 30 plus years old and
he's going into a good

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situation.
I just thought that that was

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ridiculous.
Yeah, that's an aside.

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Yeah, yeah.
I mean, for what they're going

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to use them for, it's not, how
can you call it a horrible

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contract .8 I mean, they're
going to use them as a

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complimentary may probably much
less than what Monty was, but

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still they're going to be using
them as a complimentary running

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back for 1.8.
You know, I don't, I don't see

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how that's a terrible deal.
It's not like they signed him to

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be the RB-1 and signed him, you
know, 5-6 million a year after

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having a terrible year.
They didn't do that.

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They just signed it to be, you
know, a guy to fill to, to plug

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in when they need to.
It's it's not a bad deal.

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Absolutely.
Well, let's let's break this

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down into digestible chunks and
I think we'll come out with a

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winner on on what side makes the
most sense.

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So if it's love versus Ashton
Janty, who do you pick?

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Who do you pick there?
You can't.

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Oh, they're they're about equal.
It is.

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Do you give one an edge or or do
you want to say that it's a

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wash?
For me, yeah, I would.

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I think they're right there.
They're neck and neck.

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I'm I'm OK calling it a wash.
I don't, I don't think either of

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them are are valued much higher
than the other.

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So yeah, I would, I would just
say those two are wash.

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OK, that's fair.
So we'll just cross those two

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guys out.
The 17 or the 15?

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Boy, we covered this last week.
The one 7 is where it starts to

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get a little yucky, if I
remember right.

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And the 15, you're you're
getting Jordan Tyson, you're

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getting Mackay Lemon, maybe
you're getting Jadarian Price.

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And that happens up until about
the what, the 1-6?

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And then who are you getting at
17?

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Yeah.
So the, I guess what the, what

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KC conception I, I tend to
think, you know, that, I mean,

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that's not an awful drop off,
but the 15 definitely has some

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noticeable value there over the
17.

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We can't just say, well, it's
just a couple picks.

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I mean, it could be the
difference between Jadarian

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price and, you know, KC
conception and I don't know, the

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value of Jadarian prices is
maybe a bit higher than it

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should be at the moment, but you
have all offseason to benefit

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from that.
So we're going to give it to the

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15 And now it's A.J.
Brown versus O Dunze.

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I, I, I have this down under a
miscellaneous trade for later in

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the show, but I think it's
relevant for to discuss it right

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now.
What's a what's a fair value for

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A.J.
Brown, assuming you're not

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picking up A.J.
Brown?

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If you're a a rebuilding team,
be no reason for you to do that.

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So what does a contender pay
that's reasonable for A.J.

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Brown?
Yeah, I mean, right now I would

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say if it's a contender for A.J.
Brown, man, I, I would say I

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personally, you know, we're,
this isn't really part of the

441
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,760
discussion right now, but I
personally think if you are a

442
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:49,200
contender, I would personally
wait till it gets closer to the

443
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,480
season to trade A.J.
Brown as his value.

444
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,200
I mean, inevitably his value
will go up.

445
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,400
You know, once this trade does
happen, I think his, his value

446
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,120
and perceived value will start
to go up.

447
00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:03,960
So I would wait.
But like if we're trading him

448
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:10,880
right now, I would say his value
would be yeah, I would say, I

449
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,880
would say 1/6 to 1/8 range in
this year's draft.

450
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,520
You can't know for sure what
next year's pick will be, but

451
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,360
maybe like a later first round
pick 2027.

452
00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:26,360
So in that range pick wise, I
would say that that's where he's

453
00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:28,200
at.
Yeah.

454
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,680
So if you look at the trade
here, A.J.

455
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,360
Brown is with the one O 7 side
in this one.

456
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,200
I would rather have the one O 5
over A.J.

457
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,640
Brown.
But yeah, if you're looking at

458
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,040
him right now to trade him,
yeah.

459
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,280
And 11-O, yeah, I'd say in the
that range right there for Jack

460
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,840
picks.
I'm just comparing him to O

461
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,360
Doonese in this case.
OK.

462
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:51,280
OK.
Just to a Doonese.

463
00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:53,320
Yeah, I got you.
Yeah, yeah.

464
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,680
If if you're comparing him to
the Doonese, I would say you

465
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,560
would have to put something on
top of AJ to get to a Doonese.

466
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,080
It wouldn't have to be.
I wouldn't say it would have to

467
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,360
be a ton, but you, I think you
will have to put something on

468
00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:12,160
top of AJ for sure to get to a
Doonese maybe in the 2027 early

469
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,840
second round type range.
But again that's hard to

470
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,120
project.
But that's what I would say you

471
00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:19,800
would have to add to it, maybe
even like a late first round

472
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,440
pick this year.
Yeah, yeah.

473
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:28,440
I'm thinking value.
In this trade that I had taken

474
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,760
from online, a person somehow
got a first and a second, a 27

475
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,960
first and 2nd for A.J.
Brown, which is a pretty, pretty

476
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,080
high value for him.
I would say.

477
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:42,200
If I'm a contender and for some
reason no one else trades in my

478
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,520
league and I only have one owner
I can trade with and all they're

479
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,800
giving me is A.J.
Brown and I need a wide

480
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,400
receiver, I'd feel OK giving a
27 first.

481
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,480
Just crossing my fingers at work
because I really need a wide

482
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,960
receiver.
But comparing A.J.

483
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,440
Brown to O Doones say, no, we're
going to go with O Doones say.

484
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,560
I think it only makes sense that
the ceiling is higher.

485
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,880
He's much younger.
At least we know his situation.

486
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,080
And there's there's just a lot
more story to be written for

487
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,640
Rome.
So at least that's the side I

488
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,160
would pick.
Are are you in agreement with

489
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,320
that O Doones say over A.J.
Brown?

490
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,760
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
If it's just player for player,

491
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,520
yeah Doomsday has more value
currently than A.J.

492
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,560
Brown does.
All right, then that leaves us

493
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:37,040
with all pro superstar all time
back RJ Harvey versus worst

494
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,480
offseason acquisition Isaiah
Pacheco.

495
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,480
So, OK, well, we'll be honest
here.

496
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,400
Like, you know, we we joke
around about RJ Harvey, but I,

497
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,720
you know, once again, any player
at the right price, somebody's

498
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,320
offering me RJ Harvey or Isaiah
Pacheco.

499
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,000
I'll take RJ Harvey.
Sure.

500
00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:00,520
OK, So the difference between RJ
Harvey and Isaiah Pacheco,

501
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:06,080
whatever that would be, is that
worth giving up what you gave up

502
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:11,760
going from the 1/5 to the one
seven and going from O Doonese

503
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,520
to A.J.
Brown?

504
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,040
I don't think it is.
I'm not, you know, we're, we're

505
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:25,000
not super high on RJ Harvey.
I think the side that is the

506
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,760
winner here that I can feel
pretty confident about is the

507
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,400
love side.
Yeah, that just going through it

508
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,520
that way, yeah, just kind of
matching up the players here and

509
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,320
yeah, I would agree the the love
side here I think has more value

510
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,960
in it and the 15 you know, that
could end up being a really

511
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,560
solid pick there.
So yeah.

512
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,560
And a Doonsday, like you said,
the story is not it's not done.

513
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,440
His story is not finished.
He could he could really have a

514
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,160
really good a solid year this
year.

515
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,360
And now, now you're looking at
his value heading in the next

516
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:01,160
year, as you know.
So if a Doonsday has a solid

517
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,120
year this year, we could be
looking at him next year as what

518
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,920
Abuka is right now, you know.
So let's let's and A.J.

519
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,480
Brown, if he has a really good
year, he's he's not going to get

520
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,680
that low.
You know, his value is already

521
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,920
at it.
You know, a couple years ago it

522
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,320
was at it was at its at its
ceiling.

523
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,640
And now as we sit stand here
today, his value is not going to

524
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,320
go up.
Even if he has a really good

525
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,600
year, it's not going to go up to
in next offseason.

526
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,520
His value is going to continue
to go down.

527
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,840
He'll still be a productive
veteran player that's good to

528
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,440
have if you're a contender, but
you're not going to be able to

529
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,560
trade him for a Doons a next
offseason if they both do well

530
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,840
this year.
Absolutely.

531
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,360
Even if they both have exactly
the same season, yeah, O Doonese

532
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,360
is still going to have more
value next year.

533
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,360
Or if A.J.
Brown even does slightly better.

534
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,800
And all it takes is Rome not to
completely face plants and Rome

535
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,400
is going to have more value.
So yeah, No, I think I think we

536
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,440
dissected that one pretty well.
Yeah.

537
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,840
And.
While while we're at it, I'm

538
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,880
just going to do the number I'm
going to do my second one right

539
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,200
now, just because we are talking
about a doons day, it makes

540
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,520
sense to just do it now.
OK, so the second trade I have

541
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:18,360
here it is Rome, a doonsay plus
one O 2.

542
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,760
So a doonsay one O 2 or Malik
neighbors.

543
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,440
It's a very, you know, a lot
less assets in this deal, but

544
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,160
that would that's that's the
trade there.

545
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,760
This is super flex.
You know that doesn't, you know,

546
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,240
matter too much when we're just
talking about receivers unless

547
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,040
you're going to think about
taking the quarterback one O 2.

548
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,600
But yeah, doomsday one O 2 for
Malik neighbor.

549
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,480
Well, I can imagine the trade
calculator is not going to like

550
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,760
it for the Rome and the 1-2
side.

551
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,120
I don't think so.
Malik neighbors, I mean, we've

552
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,880
seen him first hand.
He's he's a first round startup

553
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,560
pick.
So when it comes to trades,

554
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,920
having that reference in a
startup where these players

555
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,480
would go, what's the likelihood
you're going to be able to pick

556
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,600
up these players?
Rome is more like a fourth round

557
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:16,640
and who you going to get at 1-2?
Probably Carnell Tate, you know,

558
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,320
that's that would be my guess.
So if I'm plugging in players

559
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,760
for the number I see here, you
got Rome and Tate.

560
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,560
And even in a good situation,
Cardinal Tate may not just take

561
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,000
off next year.
It could take a couple years.

562
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,160
It's possible.
And Rome is that, you know, once

563
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,720
again, a narrative can be made
about any player in their favor

564
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,720
and against them.
And that's why we play the

565
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,600
games.
And that's what kind of makes it

566
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,800
fun.
But it's all all an opinion, all

567
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,280
a guess, and Rome could face
plants again.

568
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,280
He's not the guy.
He's been given the opportunity

569
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,800
and burden comes in and Loveland
comes in and they run the ball

570
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:03,600
and he has another 7-8 hundred
yard season, maybe deals with

571
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,520
some injuries.
You know, there's still some

572
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,480
reason for hope, but he just
doesn't produce.

573
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:13,480
And now you have him in a rookie
wide receiver that had 900 yards

574
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,520
or you're missing out on Malik
Neighbors, who is a first round

575
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,400
startup pick who we've already
seen produce.

576
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,120
I can understand why somebody
would do this trade.

577
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,679
This almost the type of trade I
would do, even though I don't

578
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:32,000
like it seeing someone else do
it.

579
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:37,560
I, I like to tear down.
Granted, in my Hampton trade, I

580
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,600
teared up.
I, I took a bunch of pieces

581
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,840
together and pasted them
together and then I got

582
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,239
something better in my opinion.
But I do like the idea of

583
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,040
breaking stars into two pieces.
And then you have two assets

584
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,360
that can increase in value
versus someone.

585
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,360
That's how much higher are you
going to go when you're the, you

586
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,120
know, a late first round startup
pick?

587
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:03,320
There's, there's only a handful
of spots you can go that's any

588
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,080
higher where Rome has multiple
rounds he could jump.

589
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,160
You know, you have a much more
of a chance to to get a good

590
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,800
return on your investment.
But in this case, I got to go

591
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,680
with Malik neighbors.
It from an outsider, maybe it's

592
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,160
more clear.
What are your thoughts on this

593
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,160
one?
Yeah, I think I would go with

594
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,160
the neighbor side, but I don't
think it's not outrageous

595
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,040
though.
I, I think it's, I would say

596
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,720
it's slightly neighbor side just
because obviously like you

597
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:40,200
mentioned first round startup
pick, you see what he could do

598
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,720
when he's healthy.
We've already seen it.

599
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,880
The the concern of, you know,
how he'll look when he comes

600
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,160
back.
That could be the reason why

601
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,360
you'd want to make this type of
deal because of doomsday.

602
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,480
Obviously we talked about he's
got a potential he's he surely

603
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,680
does have potential.
We need to see it happen.

604
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,200
Crowded receiver core right now.
Let's see how that looks this

605
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,720
coming year.
The one O 2 is, you know,

606
00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:08,640
Carnell Tay is normally what
you're going to see at the one O

607
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,880
2.
And if so, if it's Carnell Tate

608
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,840
and a Doonese, you know Tate
right now.

609
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,040
I mean, in some sites you I've
I've been seeing them top 15,

610
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,360
top 12 right now.
Honesty receiver.

611
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:25,000
So yeah, I I I would still go
slightly neighbors, but I can

612
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,160
see the logic and reasoning why
you would want to make deal.

613
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,280
If you're on the other side, I
can see the logic.

614
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,400
Oh yeah, I'm not saying it's
totally lopsided.

615
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,400
I just think when it comes to
you're making the the right call

616
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,800
for your team.
Yeah, but I I then again, you

617
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,120
know, it's it's the context of
some of this.

618
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,400
If I'm in a major rebuild and I
get it, people say neighbors is

619
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,280
the type of guy you build
around.

620
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,640
Yeah, sure, sure he is.
But so could Carnell, Tate and

621
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,480
Roma dunce.
They can be people you build

622
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,640
around to.
And I'd you know, there's only

623
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,720
so many starting spots on your
lineup.

624
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,920
And yes, you, you, you know, I,
I don't want to be sitting and

625
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:16,160
rebuilding land forever.
I want to have my my starting

626
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,400
lineup and a handful of depth
players and, and see what I can

627
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,160
do with that.
But yeah, it's it's not

628
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:28,280
overwhelmingly, it's not a
robbery of any kind, but I still

629
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,840
think neighbors is is probably
the the smart choice.

630
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,600
For sure.
And this is go ahead, sorry.

631
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,680
Oh, I was just saying neighbors
is a smart choice.

632
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:42,600
And if I'm going to break apart
neighbors, you know, maybe I

633
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,920
look for something slightly
different, but depends on my

634
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,640
team need.
I mean, you know, maybe this

635
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,880
makes sense for me.
And I needed a quarterback.

636
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,720
And I can get, you know,
Fernando here in Rome, and it

637
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:56,640
makes sense for me.
Yeah, for sure.

638
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,160
That's what I was going to say.
If you're trading Malik

639
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,400
Neighbors, I don't think you
feel terrible about this return.

640
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,680
You know, it gives you options
and if you are high on a doon's

641
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,840
day, you believe he is going to
be a player.

642
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,240
You can, you know, be confident
in then you get into one O 2 on

643
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:15,080
top.
So it's not a bad return at all

644
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,160
for neighbors.
And then on the flip side,

645
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,440
trading for him.
I think it's OK to give this up

646
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,000
for him too.
So I like this trade overall.

647
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,160
I I would still rather be on the
neighbor side, but slightly it

648
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,560
it's a it's a good trade.
I think it's a good trade

649
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,840
overall.
Yeah, yeah.

650
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,720
No, it's a, it's interesting as
it gets you to think and I think

651
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:39,760
that's the, the the fun part of
us covering some of these trades

652
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,840
that it's, it can be emotionally
driven, it can be team dependent

653
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:51,160
when it's your team, but when
you see them from the outside

654
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:56,040
looking in, it provides a a
greater sense of objectivity.

655
00:38:56,720 --> 00:38:58,680
Coming back with my next trade
here.

656
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,480
This is another trade that I
did.

657
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:08,280
This one is in a non PPR league
so it's kind of the old school.

658
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,000
It's no super flex either.
It's a start 9 league A1

659
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,400
quarterback so but there are 6
point passing touchdowns so

660
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,520
quarterbacks have a slightly
elevated value.

661
00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:27,120
And what the trade was was I
traded Jackson Dart, Jadarian

662
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:34,840
Price and Horton for a 27 first
and Chase Brown.

663
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,680
My my logic in this was I'm
going to reroll Jadarian Price

664
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:45,160
in the 27 class.
So if I move Price for the 27

665
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:50,600
first and Jackson dart, I
already had depth at

666
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,720
quarterback.
I I have Joe Burrow, Cam Ward

667
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:58,120
and Tyler Shaw.
Now granted, those Cam Ward and

668
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,920
Tyler Shaw are not Jackson Dart,
but then again, Jackson Dart

669
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,000
only had one good year.
And but you can only start one

670
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:11,880
quarterback.
So I felt like moving those two

671
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,760
assets or something I did need,
which is a running back, in this

672
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:22,440
case, Chase Brown.
It made sense for my team when I

673
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,280
ran it through a fantasy calc,
it had it about equal.

674
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,840
But I'll, I'll be curious to
hear your thoughts on it.

675
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,320
OK.
So you had it's dart price and

676
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,680
what was the other player in
that deal?

677
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,560
Tori Horton.
OK, OK.

678
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,480
The art price Tori Horton and
then it's for Chase Brown and

679
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,000
2027 first correct?
That's correct.

680
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,960
And and we'll, we'll just
imagine all the firsts are

681
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,640
always in the middle.
OK.

682
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:48,400
In the middle.
OK.

683
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,800
Yeah.
I mean 2027 first in the middle

684
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,640
is, is very, we talked about
earlier that's that's highly

685
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,320
valued.
So and then you're getting Chase

686
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,120
Brown, Chase Brown the known
right now in in this deal as far

687
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,440
as running back production.
We've seen what he's done

688
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,800
already.
We know he's in a good offense.

689
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,840
We know he's been producing and
you have good quarterback depth.

690
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,720
So yeah, I, I think, I think
getting this return for the

691
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:17,520
players that you traded, it's
good, especially with your

692
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,280
quarterback depth.
You, you were able to make a

693
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,800
trade like this and still feel
comfortable what you have at

694
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:27,160
position.
And again, non PPR, yeah, in a

695
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,280
non PPR league, Chase Brown is,
is as good as it gets at the

696
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,320
position solid, you know, back
in RB-1.

697
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,000
And then the 2027 first is, is
the the wild card here.

698
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,120
If that ends up being in the top
three, then you look at the

699
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,520
trade next year at this time and
you're, you're feeling amazing

700
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,920
about it.
Because I mean, we talked about

701
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,720
it earlier in the week.
If you end up with the 2027

702
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,720
first overall pick in next
year's draft, that's going to be

703
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:56,520
that's going to be a great
player to have on your team.

704
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,920
We know who that is.
Jeremiah Smith, outstanding

705
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,160
outstanding player, one of the
best prospects we've seen come

706
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,640
come into the league in a long
time.

707
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,120
Hopefully he can, you know, stay
healthy out there on the field

708
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,800
next year and produce.
But if it ends up being a mid

709
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,960
2027 first, I still think it's a
solid trade for you given your

710
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,960
team construction and and just
wanting to get that known

711
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:23,440
production at running back.
Yeah, it puts an awful heavy

712
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:31,240
load on Jadarian Price that if
the pick is is better than mid,

713
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,320
how good of a year does to
Darian Price have to have for

714
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,400
this not to work out in my
favor?

715
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:43,680
So I I liked it.
It was using my depth in a way

716
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,600
that made sense for this league,
for an area of weakness and also

717
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:53,920
being realistic about my team's
chances that this was not a a

718
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,120
contending team.
I just want to make them better.

719
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:03,280
They're not in a full in the
basement, you know, rebuild.

720
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,320
They're they're coming out of a
rebuild, but they're probably

721
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,400
still a year out.
So, but yeah, no, I was happy

722
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,480
with that trade this week.
Made a couple other trades too.

723
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:13,880
I'll I'll throw one year away
here.

724
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,800
This is a real quick one.
This is just a question about

725
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,320
two, two players we haven't
talked about.

726
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,960
I made one in a a Super Flex
league.

727
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,560
It's in the league you run 12,
team start 10.

728
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,400
Tua is who I acquired for Caleb
Johnson.

729
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,320
So the question becomes, who has
a greater chance of career

730
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,360
redemption, Tua or Caleb
Johnson?

731
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,120
Man, this, this is like, this is
hard.

732
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,520
This is hard because I, I don't
really know.

733
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,760
I mean, Caleb Johnson is really
struggling with it with his

734
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:56,160
depth chart situation right now.
And to I mean, he has to win the

735
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,280
starting job to have any chance
to return any value whatsoever.

736
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,560
But I guess if I had to take a
side who would have the chance

737
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:10,080
to return any value whatsoever,
I guess I would go, man, this is

738
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,160
not easy.
Yeah, I guess I will go with Tua

739
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,600
just because his route to
playing time is is just easier

740
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,200
right now than Caleb Johnson.
I will go with Tua.

741
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,040
He only has to beat out Penix.
And if Caleb Johnson's going to

742
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,520
get any meaningful playing time
at all, he's going to need a

743
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,040
couple situations that will take
place for him to have any chance

744
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,920
to see the field right now.
So yeah, I guess I will go with

745
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,080
Tua being the guy that's going
to return value for you right

746
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,600
now.
I would tend to agree with that.

747
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:45,440
I mean, it is a trade I made
where I got to I I do think in

748
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,640
the in contrast to saying, OK,
well, yeah, you're right to only

749
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,320
has to be Penex.
That's true.

750
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,600
And if there was some sort of
betting or prediction website,

751
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,280
what's the over under on how
many games tool will start this

752
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,480
year?
I I put it at three.

753
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,440
I I know there's going to be
some games to a starts this

754
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,720
year.
Caleb has to have a lot more

755
00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:14,160
fall his way.
He needs to have pretty much

756
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:19,200
Rico Dowdell get injured for a
good portion of the season and

757
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,680
then Jalen Warren fall out of
favor.

758
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,440
And then on top of it, he has to
play well.

759
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,640
But Caleb Johnson, if he
somehow, if all those stars

760
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,760
align, the value for Caleb
Johnson will be much higher than

761
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,800
him somehow to what takes over
as the starting quarterback in

762
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,800
Atlanta.
And let's say we see him play, I

763
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,200
don't know, kind of like he has
the last couple of years.

764
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,960
You see him play, you know, he's
a lower, you know, quarterback

765
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:54,840
to, but he's starting.
If somehow Caleb rises to being

766
00:45:54,840 --> 00:46:00,520
a starting NFL running back and
he's in Year 2, a lot of excuses

767
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,280
can be made about why things
didn't work out last year and

768
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,080
it'll all be forgotten.
So the ceiling I think is a lot

769
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:13,000
higher with Caleb and when you
make a trade like this, but the

770
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,720
likelihood of it all happening
is a bit maybe, I don't know,

771
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,440
it's, it's more unrealistic.
Yeah, for sure.

772
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,880
I think if you if you look at
it, who would you rather have as

773
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,680
far as you know, potential
ceiling?

774
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,000
Who are you more excited to
have?

775
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,000
I would say Caleb Johnson for
sure, because at least you know,

776
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,640
you know, the reason he hasn't
done anything is because you

777
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,880
just there's other players ahead
of him.

778
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,200
That's it's not because he
hasn't looked good on the field

779
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:44,120
when he hit what he's played on.
The reason why Tua is going to

780
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,600
give you a lot of hesitation is
because obviously his injury,

781
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,680
his concussions, that's very
worrisome.

782
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:53,880
And, you know, it just didn't
play well, you know, and so

783
00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:56,760
you're a little more concerned
about what you're going to get

784
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,560
from him long term.
Then with Caleb Johnson, you

785
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,120
don't really know.
But if, if he does get an

786
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,040
opportunity, you know, you, you
see the skill set and you see

787
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,520
the potential for him to return
some kind of value later on.

788
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,480
It's just unfortunately the, the
running back room right now is

789
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,360
it's crowded.
It's crowded for him right now.

790
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,520
Will it take him hitting free
agency in a couple years for for

791
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:21,840
him to get his opportunity?
Maybe.

792
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,400
Let's hope it doesn't take that
long, but it it could.

793
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,400
So exciting wise, like who would
you rather have and be more

794
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,160
excited to have?
I would say Caleb Johnson.

795
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,120
It's going to be the more
exciting guy to have on your

796
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,040
roster.
But if you need something right

797
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,120
now, 2 is the only one that
right now then you would say

798
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,360
he's going to get you anything.
Agreed.

799
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,640
Agreed.
Well, I think you have one.

800
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:44,960
Do you have one more trade for
me?

801
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,640
Yes, I do.
I have one more here.

802
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,760
All right, all right, here it
is.

803
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,640
This one here involves receivers
as the cornerstones of the

804
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,000
trade.
So this this here, this trade is

805
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:06,160
it is 1/2 point PPR league and
it's Lad Mcconkey, BTJ and Tyler

806
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:11,600
Algier and it's for Nico
Collins, for Rashi Rice and

807
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:16,400
Chuba Hubbard.
So I mean, what do you think

808
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,200
here?
I personally do think there is a

809
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,400
clear winner in this trade
depending on their roster

810
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,880
construction and depending on if
they're contending or not.

811
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:26,560
What?
What do you think?

812
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,800
Yeah, I mean, I, I guess I'll,
I'll break it down.

813
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,960
I'm going to break it down going
backwards this time.

814
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,080
That's how talented we are here
on Lab 50.

815
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,600
So we're going to do it
backwards.

816
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,880
Hubbard and Algier.
You know, I guess Hubbard has

817
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:48,800
this light edge.
At least he's the starter and

818
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,360
Algier has love ahead of him.
So we're going to, we're going

819
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,160
to circle Hubbard here.
He's the guy that you want, but

820
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,680
I don't know.
I, I don't think the gap is very

821
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,240
large here.
That's just having to pick one

822
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:03,800
of the two.
Rice over BTJ.

823
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,640
Once again, we're all hoping
we're, we're confused about what

824
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,600
happened with BTJ last year.
If anybody knew, if any of the

825
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:16,360
analysts or experts or
commentators knew, they'd be

826
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:17,920
telling us.
Nobody knows.

827
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:21,280
This can be losing disinterest
in football.

828
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,840
This can be injury related, this
can be maturity related.

829
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,760
This can be off the field stuff.
This can be not being a

830
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,680
professional like Kyler Murray
and playing too many video

831
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:38,960
games.
We know he can do it, but you

832
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,840
know, maybe it's an offensive
shift.

833
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,600
It's not the same scheme
anymore.

834
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,440
We don't know.
So there's that big question

835
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:50,240
mark and he got Rashi Rice back,
got Eric B Enemy calling the

836
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:56,480
plays between those two.
I guess I would I'll take the

837
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:01,880
known in Rashi Rice.
BTJ, yes, he could certainly

838
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:06,320
return on value for you.
Yes, BTJ hasn't had some major

839
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,680
off the field problems like Rice
has, but at this point I don't

840
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:15,080
know what's going on with BTJ.
So unless I'm getting him at a

841
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:20,840
discount, if I'm being handed
somebody like Rashi Rice and

842
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:25,880
we're we're comparing him to
BTJ, give me the right side.

843
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:32,760
And then he got Nico for LAD.
Certainly if you're a contender,

844
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,840
give me give me Nico.
He has a little bit of trouble

845
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,000
staying on the field.
I think what he's 26, might be

846
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:43,760
turning 27 this season, so he's
not necessarily young anymore.

847
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:51,160
But then again, lad is not like
21 years old either and got Mike

848
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,520
McDaniel in town.
That one feels to me like more

849
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,560
of a push that I don't
necessarily care, but if I'm

850
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:05,280
looking for to have a pseudo
wide receiver one on my team, I

851
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,920
guess I would go with Nico.
I'm going to take the Nico Rice

852
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,280
and Hubbard side and not really
feel bad about it.

853
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,480
If I take the lad BTJ and
Algiers side, I'm figuring

854
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,440
Algiers.
He's stuck behind Love.

855
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,920
What's the future there?
BTJ, We already saw him face

856
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,040
plant last year.
If he face plants again, you

857
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,560
know it's one of those you fool
me once, shame on you, fool me

858
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,760
twice, shame on me.
You would have gotten fooled

859
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,040
twice.
He just showed you what he did

860
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,360
and it was nothing.
And then at best, all you'd have

861
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,760
left is Ladd, a guy that might
just be a wide receiver too in

862
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,560
this league, which is nothing
wrong with that, but it isn't a

863
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,360
wide receiver, one like Nico.
What?

864
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,560
What did you come up with?
Yeah, I think it's kind of funny

865
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,080
when you look at this trade, if
this was, we're talking about

866
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,240
this trade in 20, in the
offseason, last offseason.

867
00:51:55,240 --> 00:52:00,360
This is a Lad Mcconkey BTJ win
for short, You know, both coming

868
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,760
off really good years, the arrow
pointing up young players good

869
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:09,360
in good situations.
But now after year 2, both of

870
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,480
them coming off down years.
Yeah.

871
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,360
I mean, especially if you're a
contender getting Nico Collins

872
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,320
or Rasheed Rice.
I think you're looking at two

873
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,680
guys that are, you know, top 15
dynasty receivers right now.

874
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,640
And Lad Mccocky, BTJ are below
them, right.

875
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,200
It's just what it's just what it
is after the the years they

876
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,400
have.
Yeah.

877
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,960
That's why I said earlier, if
you're contending this is

878
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,560
there's a clear, clear winner
here.

879
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,200
And it's definitely the Nico
Rashi Rice side in my opinion.

880
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,880
And if you're rebuilding, I
guess I could see why you would

881
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:45,160
rather have the LAD BTBTJ side
just because the potential of

882
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,640
those players is is extremely
high and they're really young

883
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,720
right now.
But yeah, I think if we have to

884
00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:51,960
just look at it in a vacuum
right now, what you what do you

885
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,480
want in this in this trade?
Yeah, I'm going with the Nico

886
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,320
Rashi Rice.
Not a lot of disagreement today

887
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,040
with these trades.
Not a lot of disagreement

888
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,440
between you and I with these
trades.

889
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:06,520
I, I, I think, yeah, we got to
find some trades next time that

890
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,000
we would disagree on because I
don't really, I didn't, I didn't

891
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,520
see all that disagreement here
today.

892
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,480
It's interesting to see these
offers too, because they're

893
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,600
they're they're happening all
the time right now.

894
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,520
And, you know, people are
positioning to sell themselves

895
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,080
for, you know, a push for the
season.

896
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,200
Absolutely.
And I mean, I think we're just

897
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,040
also being being honest about
what we're seeing here.

898
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:32,160
Yeah, you know that, you know,
we're not just going to disagree

899
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,760
to, you know, this isn't going
to be like a Shannon Sharpe and

900
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,320
that other guy that he was on
the show like where they just

901
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,840
argue about everything, like
doesn't matter.

902
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,040
We, we don't need to, to get
listeners that way.

903
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,600
And I think we'll close out the
show with two things because

904
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,160
we're approaching, we got about
5 minutes left here.

905
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,880
I mean, I can do 1 real quick
miscellaneous trade that I saw

906
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,880
someone else do.
I was not involved in this.

907
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:04,840
And I think this one, when we
talk about trading strategy, I'm

908
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,920
all for seizing the moment.
You know, take what you can get

909
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:13,560
now, worry about tomorrow,
tomorrow, because in fantasy

910
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,440
things move fast.
Things can change, but not, not

911
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:21,000
this trade.
This is just and it was somebody

912
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,640
traded Derrick Henry for a 2027
second.

913
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:29,280
And I saw that it's like, oh,
come on, come on.

914
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,680
I don't even care if it's a 21.
I get it.

915
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,760
If you're totally rebuilding,
you're in the you're in the

916
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,400
gutter and you want to get rid
of Derrick Henry.

917
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:44,040
I, I tend to think you could get
like an asset and probably a 27

918
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:49,320
seconds because I mean, he's
just, he's ARB one.

919
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,240
Somebody's going to pay up for
him.

920
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,120
I mean, unless we expect that
all of a sudden Derrick Henry is

921
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,400
going to hit the field next year
and oh, he's just all slow.

922
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,800
Like, you know, 35 year old
Adrian Peterson there.

923
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,680
I mean, there's a chance Derrick
Henry pulls an Adrian Peterson.

924
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,560
He's still playing when he's 35.
He's still got another three

925
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:12,000
years left.
This is not the type of player

926
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,840
that you sell for a second.
I don't think so.

927
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:20,560
What are your thoughts?
Yeah, yeah, I, I man, a second

928
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,720
round pick seems a little a
little light to get to trade

929
00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:28,160
Henry for because you think
about it, it's, it's still a

930
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,400
future pick and it's in the
second round.

931
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:36,920
So man, I guess, I guess it
really depends on, you know,

932
00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:38,840
what you think the outlook of
your team is.

933
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,440
But I think right now for sure
you can get more than that for

934
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,640
Derrick Henry.
You get closer to the season as

935
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,840
we get every time you have these
productive veteran players and

936
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,640
you want to trade them.
Do not trade them right now.

937
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,440
Wait till the season gets
closer.

938
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,480
The contending teams will come
asking for and you're going to

939
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,040
get something better in a second
round pick.

940
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,040
You know, guys like Eric Hunter,
guys like Devante Adams, Saquon

941
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,360
Barclays, AJ Browns players,
players like that in in that in

942
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,080
that kind of situation,
productive veterans.

943
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,480
They're getting older, but
they're still productive.

944
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,880
They could still win you weeks.
Do not trade them right now

945
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,920
because you're not going to get
fair value for it.

946
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,480
Yeah, I don't really like that
at all.

947
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,080
I think just sending them all
for a second round pick does.

948
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,720
It doesn't seem like you're
really.

949
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,520
It doesn't seem like a value win
in any way for in my opinion.

950
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,400
No, absolutely not.
And there's a difference between

951
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,520
somebody like Derrick Henry and
Travis Kelsey besides, you know,

952
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:43,640
the position they play or their
age, that there's no specific

953
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,760
indication that Derrick Henry is
going to retire where it feels

954
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,280
very much like Travis Kelsey.
He's right on the edge of

955
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:54,080
retirement.
And so like, if you wanted to

956
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,760
trade Travis Kelsey for a
second, I can understand that.

957
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,320
And also Travis Kelsey didn't
just put up like a, you know,

958
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,280
close to like top five season
last year.

959
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,640
I'd have to look up where Henry
finished.

960
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,280
But I guess it depends on your
format.

961
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,840
But yeah, no, I'm OK with you
want to move Travis Kelsey when

962
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,920
is he's got 1 foot out the door,
But but not Derrick Henry.

963
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:21,960
He's a special player.
So next week I know we had

964
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,800
talked about maybe we're going
to come back and the draft has

965
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:30,840
happened and we're going to look
at maybe are going to do top top

966
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,320
25.
So we'll do wide receiver one

967
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:38,560
and wide receiver 2 + 1
Honorable mention because we're

968
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,520
not going to spend a lot of time
on the very top ranked wide

969
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:42,960
receivers.
How much more do you need

970
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,640
someone to talk about Jamar
Chase?

971
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,640
You don't really need someone to
do that or someone to say well,

972
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,120
you know, JSN, he's the 4th best
wide receiver.

973
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:56,800
Wait, no, he's #2 doesn't really
matter because some of those

974
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,240
decisions are going to be made
for you in your drafts.

975
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,160
And if you're getting someone
you know in the first round,

976
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,080
they're they're going to be a
good wide receiver.

977
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,760
But it'll be interesting if we,
you know, that gives us on

978
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,120
average about two minutes a
player.

979
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:14,520
You think we'll be able to do
it?

980
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,600
Top 25 wide receivers.
Yeah.

981
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,920
I mean, we got no choice, right?
We have to try to figure it out.

982
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,200
But no, it'll definitely be
interesting because we can, you

983
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,280
know, kind of cross reference
the original rankings we had for

984
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,680
these guys and kind of see, you
know, which players, you know,

985
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,760
stood, stood steady where
they're at or, you know, dropped

986
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,760
or, you know, even money even
higher.

987
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,120
I'm sure we're going to see some
kind of mix up in our rankings,

988
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,440
especially with some of the
rookies in their landing spots.

989
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,440
So it, it'll be fun to see
receivers, obviously, you know,

990
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,480
when, when, when you're talking
about wide receivers and dynasty

991
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,520
fantasy football, they are the
most valuable assets for your

992
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:50,920
team.
They hold the value of the

993
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,960
longest.
So you, you want to hit on these

994
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,520
receivers.
And so just seeing rankings and,

995
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,880
and, and especially when it
comes to trades, you want to,

996
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,760
you want to look at rankings
where you're doing trades, you

997
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,200
want to look at the, the
potential that of them going

998
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,440
higher and higher in, in their
career.

999
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,800
So yeah, it'll be fun.
It'll be really fun to see this.

1000
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,960
Wonderful, wonderful.
Well, I think it takes us to

1001
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,960
about our hour and once again we
have what was that?

1002
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:23,960
That was Lab 52,
dynastyfootball.com.

1003
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,720
That's the website people want
to go to if they have any

1004
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,440
questions for us.
Want to reach out.

1005
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,680
I know you have you and I have
talked about maybe bringing on a

1006
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,840
listener as a special guest.
If there's anyone that's

1007
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,480
interested in doing that, you
know, make sure you hit us up at

1008
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,600
lab52dynastyfootball.com.
It would be, it's always

1009
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,040
interesting to hear other
people's perspectives.

1010
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,320
To be part of this show.
All you really need is a

1011
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,680
smartphone that has access to
some apps.

1012
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:57,880
You know, dedicated microphone
is nice, but if you just have a

1013
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,920
pair of wired earbuds, that has
worked as Amaro has showed us.

1014
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,480
So it's actually worked quite
well.

1015
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,040
But yeah, hit us up on that
website.

1016
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:11,120
And once again, thank everybody
for listening for the feedback.

1017
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,080
It really helps.
It's a lot of fun for both of us

1018
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,160
to do.
Look forward to doing it.

1019
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,560
So I'll be signing off this week
and I'll let you close it out

1020
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:20,600
for us.
Weapon X.

1021
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,760
Yeah, awesome, awesome show.
Always fun talking trades.

1022
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,880
I know we talk trades all the
time throughout the week.

1023
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,920
You know, different trade offers
we're seeing different trades

1024
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,560
we've seen take place.
So yeah, it's always fun talking

1025
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:38,440
trades and and again, anyone who
he wants to you know, us to talk

1026
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,840
about anything on the show, any
questions you have, you know,

1027
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,400
you can reach out to us on the
website.

1028
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,000
We're we're excited to see to
see what kind of feedback we'll

1029
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,720
get on the site, see what kind
of questions you get.

1030
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,840
We're we're happy to take on any
questions and we're excited

1031
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,680
about the opportunity.
And again, everyone who listens,

1032
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,920
we're we're so, so thankful and
so appreciative for all you

1033
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:03,360
guys.
Everyone that listens is, is,

1034
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,320
it's important to us and we're,
we're, we're thankful for all

1035
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,160
you guys really, really, really
appreciate it.

1036
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,720
We're excited to keep going here
and we're excited to to come

1037
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,920
back next week and talk some
wide receiver rankings.